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    Jeff Rueter

    August 23, 2016
    The Angle
    In Unique Market, Twellman and Vermes give input on MNUFC Roster Building

    With Minnesota United’s entrance into MLS in 2017 secured, the team and fans can turn their attention in earnest to what that first-kick roster might look like. People will closely be watching how the Loons use their three designated player spots. We’ve spoken to a few outside observers, Peter Vermes and Taylor Twellman, to get a sense of how a market like Minnesota might recruit designated players.

    Over the course of the past few months, I’ve been working on a series called the Designated Report. The pieces are a way to both reflect on the history of the league as the designated player rule is in its tenth year as well as (more importantly) a cautionary tale for Minnesota United as the team looks to fill their spots.

    Speaking to this writer over at mlssoccer.com, sporting director Manny Lagos confirmed that the United “aren’t going to say we ‘need’ to use three DPs or one DP, no DPs. We’re going to build the roster for the right reason.”

    This should be music to MNUFC fans’ ears.

    While the Twin Cities isn’t a small market by any means, it is dwarfed in comparison to MLS heavy-hitters in New York and Los Angeles. While Chicago hasn’t been able to use their city’s size to their advantage, Miami looks poised to enter the league in 2018 alongside another Los Angeles franchise.

    “I think Minnesota, Kansas City, Columbus, Salt Lake, Dallas, Houston – we’re all very similar markets,” Sporting KC head coach and sporting director Peter Vermes said ahead of the team’s June US Open Cup matchup with Minnesota. “We’re not New York or Los Angeles, so a lot of times when you’re bringing players you can add to your team, the Beckhams of the world won’t necessarily like your team’s city. That’s just the reality of it. As a club, we have to find different means of ways we can keep the level of the player coming into our team high to be competitive with teams outspending us. That’s why the academy is such an important part.”

    Kansas City has developed one of the best academies in the league, with defender Kevin Ellis usurping Matt Besler’s grip on a starting spot, defender Erik Palmer-Brown being one of the hottest prospects in the USMNT pool and earning a loan to FC Porto, and goalkeeper Jon Kempin having seen a post-season start against Portland last fall and earning regular minutes for San Antonio Scorpions (NASL) and Swope Park Rangers (USL) on loan.

    “Orlando City has been a home run. With what OC has done has completely surprised the heck out of me.”
    -Taylor Twellman

    Taylor Twellman sees other recent expansion sides as strong examples to follow. “Right away, you look at Seattle and Portland, right? Even Portland struggled a little bit and Caleb Porter came in and was able to right the ship, so to speak. I look at those two, even Vancouver with their academy. They struggled, but they had that academy and now they’re reaping the rewards of that. Business-wise, Orlando City has been a home run. With what OC has done has completely surprised the heck out of me.”

    “I think if you’re short-sighted and build a team based on 2017, I think you’re going to be unsuccessful. I think when you look at this, and Dr. McGuire has done a very good job of this, I don’t think they’re panicked because they want to build this for the future. I think the experience of Manny Lagos playing in MLS, understanding the personnel in Major League Soccer, is vital. He understands what it takes to win. But you need to get your philosophy, you need to get your ducks in a row, and then you go from there. But I think if you build this half-heartedly based on 2017, then I think you’re in a situation where they’re three-four years down the road and still trying to make up for it.”

    There’s a buzz around the Cascadian teams and Orlando as well that seems to have eclipsed the major markets as the focal point of the league. While the likes of Beckham, Henry, Villa, and Gerrard may not be interested in living in Minnesota, there are far bigger factors that can pull in players who are equally successful in the league. These factors are as crucial a part of the bigger picture as any player signing could be.

    “It’s not about 2017 and 2018. When that stadium opens, you want everything firing because that is going to be a huge first impression on a lot of people.”
    -Taylor Twellman

    Twellman pointed out: “I think the most important thing when you’re attracting players here is that they see that stadium that’s not artificial turf, that’s 20k seats in Saint Paul. Now all of a sudden, you can recruit the Diego Valeri’s of the world and those kind of players. That’s why I reiterate: it’s not about 2017 and 2018. When that stadium opens, you want everything firing because that is going to be a huge first impression on a lot of people.”

    With Minnesota United looking to build their MLS roster in time for January’s training camp, the club will need to hit the ground running sooner than later. With expansion partner Atlanta United FC having been preparing since their announcement in April 2014, there’s a bit of worry amongst fans that Minnesota is behind the curve.

    According to Twellman, that’s far from the case.

    “Are they behind Atlanta? No. I think the urgency is there, don’t get me wrong. I think if you asked the Minnesota United people off the record, I think they’d say that the pressure is on. Atlanta doesn’t know what’s going to work or not. I think I look at it and say that they wanted to make sure they were starting in 2017 and would go from there, but it’s August 19th? They better be rocking and rolling on September 1st with a good understanding of what that plan is.”

    There will be lots of talk on this site and others about what Minnesota should do as they fill their inaugural roster. I’ll give a take on how I think the club should tackle their Designated Player slots, but before they make any marquee signings, three things should take place.

    First, the club needs to do a real assessment on the current roster.

    Over the course of the season, there have been varying opinions about how many players on this NASL roster could make the jump to MLS. While recent results have a lot of us in a state of pessimism, the fact remains that there are players in the club today who can contribute to MLS, whether they start or otherwise. Analyzing who these players are and figuring them into their plan moving forward is an obvious but crucial place for the team to start.

    Second, the club should try to bring back Miguel Ibarra.

    Sometimes the obvious partnership is the right one. Ibarra hasn’t been getting minutes for Club Leon, and his transfer fee would presumably be low because of this. If he needed a transfer, he would automatically become a DP, but because he knows the club’s philosophy and fills a need on the wing, it’s a match made in heaven.

    Third, the club should come out of the expansion draft with three starters.

    Even if the club has three starters coming up from NASL (entirely possible) and can sign Ibarra to be a fourth, that leaves seven places on the field open. With the benefit of hindsight, it looks as if New York city bested Orlando City in the last expansion draft, with players like Tommy McNamara and Jason Hernandez providing more to the club. Orlando, meanwhile, spent the first pick on Donovan Ricketts, a goalkeeper who clearly had little left in the tank once the season kicked off. This expansion draft will be crucial to the team’s fortunes as they look ahead to 2017 and beyond.

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    7 responses to “In Unique Market, Twellman and Vermes give input on MNUFC Roster Building”

    1. Alex Schieferdecker Avatar
      Alex Schieferdecker
      August 23, 2016

      Jeff, I take the exact opposite idea out of #3. I’d much rather spend the expansion draft taking flyers on young players who haven’t worked out for other teams. I’m not worried about getting starters out of that draft, almost by definition, the players available in that draft are not going to be difference-makers. Stocking your team with the expansion draft is a recipe to not only be bad, but also boring.

      If we promoted our entire matchday 18 from the NASL, and filled the rest of our roster with prospects, I’d be happier than if we canned everyone and filled the team with whatever veteran MLSers are surplus to requirements across the league.

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      1. Jeff Rueter Avatar
        Jeff Rueter
        August 23, 2016

        No doubt, if you can get guys like Bradford Jamieson IV from LA or Deybi Flores from Vancouver, you take them. Realistically, very few of those guys make their way to Expansion Drafts. Further, you can’t make every pick a gamble and hope one or two turn out. Last year, New York’s highlights were Ned Grabavoy, Patrick Mullins, Hernandez, and McNamara. Grabavoy was steady last year, Mullins had upside but didn’t pan out until he left NYC, while Hernandez and McNamara have been great contributors. If you can find starters for no cost, you take them.

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        1. Alex Schieferdecker Avatar
          Alex Schieferdecker
          August 23, 2016

          I think Flores could be an option.

          McNamara was by no means a guaranteed starter, he was coming off a huge injury and was a prospect. As was Mullins, who was decent. Grabavoy, who WAS picked as a day one starter, was poor and shipped out after Kreis left.

          My lesson from that was, pick potential, get your starters elsewhere.

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      2. Jake Rueter Avatar
        Jake Rueter
        August 23, 2016

        I think you can both get what you want out of the expansion draft – the key is just to avoid the Brian Carrolls of the world and stick to players like McNamara. If the number of players that other clubs can protect remains the same as in 2014, I think this is almost certain to be true.

        It’s been interesting to look at spitballed protected lists on r/MLS.(https://www.reddit.com/r/MLS/comments/4z1zu5/now_that_the_expansion_draft_has_been_confirmed/?st=IS7ZYKPR&sh=f2231418)
        There have been a number of names left unprotected that intrigue me. Nick Hagglund, Kevin Ellis, Darren Mattocks, & Ryan Meara just to list a few. There’s room to find young players that could start if we’re smart.

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        1. Jeff Rueter Avatar
          Jeff Rueter
          August 23, 2016

          Ellis and Meara intrigue me the most out of those four. You also know what you’re getting with Hagglund, but Mattocks is too much of a streaky player for my liking. I haven’t seen him get close to his 2012 form, either.

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      3. Wes Avatar
        Wes
        August 23, 2016

        where I think you might be able to get a few starters from are from the guys who are a bit too old and expensive that you value more than the existing team. You can get a couple veterans like that Ricketts wasn’t a bad pick up. He didn’t work out, but I would have done the exact same thing as Orlando.
        Let’s also remember that Ian Fuller was at Orlando for the expansion so he will have learned from their mistakes.

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    2. nathan3e Avatar
      nathan3e
      August 24, 2016

      Meara has been behind Robles, who is an iron man. It would be worth a shot.

      I also love the idea of trying to bring Ibarra back.

      Frankly, I am just glad to be escaping NASL. The ship be sinking.

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